[OVNI-SCIENCES] Body snatchers in the desert

[GBourdais]

Petite corection :
Je parle évidemment de Jim Ragsdale.
Gildas Bourdais

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From: "GBourdais" <gbourdais at wanadoo.fr>
To: <Debat at ovni-sciences.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [OVNI-SCIENCES] Body snatchers in the desert


> Bonjour à tous,
> Voici un autre message qui me paraît de bon sens, sur la liste UFO Updates. Si on souhaite que je le traduise, je le ferai. Juste 
> un mot d'explication : Robert Gates a de l'humour. Il évoque le "jewel encrusted helmet", c'est-à-dire le casque incrusté de 
> bijoux que Jim Fragsdale racontait avoir vu, dans la seconde version de son témoignage sur Roswell. C'est aujourd'hui l'un des 
> témoins discrédités de Roswell (voir mon livre Roswell, pages  298 à 303).
> Gates est très diplomate (il commence par féliciter Redfern), mais il pose de bonnes questions, auxquelle Redfern va avoir du mal 
> à répondre, je suppose.
> Cordialement,
> Gildas Bourdais
>
>
> From: Robert Gates <RGates8254 at aol.com>
> To: ufoupdates at virtuallystrange.net
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:12:32 EDT
> Subject: Body Snatchers In The Desert
>
>
> I would like to take this opportunity to commend Nick Redfern
> for writing his book, Body Snatchers In The Desert. I look forward
> to reading it with great interest. As Listers may know, I tend
> to believe that the evidence thus far suggests on off-earth
> explaination for the events at Roswell, however we should be
> open to whereever the evidence leads. As Nick indicates,
> this book should serve as a launching point, or base, for
> additional research into the purported 731-type testing that
> allegedly happened in New Mexico during the first 8 or so months
> of 1947.
>
> As a cold war researcher, I know that there were numerous
> testing, projects and experiments that went on over the years.
> However over the years I went on a number of wild goose chases
> of projects experiments and testings that allegedly happened but
> when you nailed everything down people/places/project names you
> found things that didn't add up.
>
> I would think that somebody should talk to the NY balloon crew,
> Charles Moore and others and see if they knew of any other
> balloon projects that were happening around White Sands while
> they were their. Point blank it would be hard to hide a balloon
> with a Horten style wing as a payload.
>
> If such tests did occur, even though it was advanced that
> "everything was shredded years ago" I suspect a researcher will
> be able to find at least some documentation and or logs, which
> may link back to a person who can verify or not.
>
> Nicks information apparently came from a 'Col" at a crash
> retrival conference and a person who allegedly worked at Los
> Alamos. Should we believe them? Not until the evidence checks
> out. Many people will recall one Roswell witness who
> conviencingly told stories about first hand involvement in
> Roswell and the craft, then later it turned out that it was not
> correct. Don't forget my favorite of the many stories and tales
> advanced by witnesses the "jewel encrusted helmet." Nick in a
> way acknowledges this by indicating that this should be viewed
> as a starting point for research. We also have Robert Collins
> new book Exempt from Disclosure which names names of people in
> the high level of UFO coverup, indicates that Roswell really
> happened, and EBE 1 came from that crash.
>
> Should Roswell be proven to be part of some ghoulish experiments
> it doesn't make, or break the whole UFO subject, nor more then
> if somebody conclusively proved that one particular UFO case was
> in fact not a UFO case. It merely provides an answer about that
> particular case.
>
> I predict that the cronies from the skeptic tank who have a hard
> time adjusting the evidence to fit Mogel will seize upon Nicks
> book as the definitive explaination to what happened...when in
> fact it is only a starting point which may, or may not lead to
> the Brazel Ranch.
>
> So the bottom line is Body Snatchers in the Desert could prove
> to be 100 percent correct, partially correct, or a jewel
> encrusted helmet. Research should be able to prove this one way
> or the other. We will see where the evidence goes. If it doesn't
> add up, I am sure that Nick will be the first one to tell us.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
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